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berockly (TTG) 8/18/2023 2:14 PM
what do you like?
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Me?
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berockly (TTG) 8/18/2023 2:14 PM
yes
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:14 PM
maybe try to make her laugh and if you feel something, let it happen and embrace it
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berockly (TTG)
what do you like?
Nothing much in particular
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berockly (TTG) 8/18/2023 2:14 PM
ask her if she likes (insert things you like)
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We both like watching rain
2:16 PM
She likes rainbow
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
maybe try to make her laugh and if you feel something, let it happen and embrace it
Like telling jokes?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:17 PM
maybe, or let her listen to some music
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I do that most of the time
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:18 PM
for us music is a very strong thing, she hears anything she likes and it comes through really strong
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She says that she doesn't have a favourite song when I asked
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:20 PM
hmm
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She said that the thing that interests her is talking with me
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I've been continuesly asking her things that interests her and mostly she says 'not much'
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If I do feel what she feels then how do I embrace it?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:26 PM
its the same like if you laugh or cry and dont try to hold it back
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its not any different
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Okay
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Thanks
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:26 PM
i think tulpa stuff is very much like that with everything
2:27 PM
you start by getting answers by not holding back too much, then you start feeling the emotions come through, and from there it doesnt take much to switch
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Mmmm.... Alright, l'll note the points and use it on our next switching attempt. Thank you!!
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 2:29 PM
its all stuff you've been doing your whole life and feels the same, just with a different context
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Zehel X403
I've been continuesly asking her things that interests her and mostly she says 'not much'
A long kiss goodnight 8/18/2023 3:59 PM
It's possible she hasn't had enough chances to experience things to have an opinion yet. I'm wondering if the hope is you'll show her something new she will eventually find interesting
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I DID IT
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I FORCED A LUCID DREAM
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but
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it instantly fizzled and I lost it
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so
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Question
5:18 PM
Are there any good techniques for staying dreaming after realizing it
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berockly (TTG) 8/19/2023 5:22 PM
Just believing it will stay
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I recommend joining a lucid dreaming discord server
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I could recommend you some
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Sploda
Are there any good techniques for staying dreaming after realizing it
two techniques i've been able to pull off once each, are spinning in place and intensely taking in the details of anything around you
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the spinning was fun but kinda changed the dream a little
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however the observing detail one was mind-blowing, it was surreal how detailed and beautiful everything was
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however the observing detail one was mind-blowing, it was surreal how detailed and beautiful everything was
Yeah, for the short period of time when I am fully aware and my surroundings are actually cohesive and solid, it really is beautiful
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Sploda
Are there any good techniques for staying dreaming after realizing it
A long kiss goodnight 8/19/2023 7:39 PM
@Reisen
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Tewi: It's good to have a plan that you practice IRL for when you become lucid, so you don't get distracted/carried away and lose lucidity. We like feeling textures (starting with our clothes, moving down to our legs, then observing the environment around us). Then your plans for what to do will vary, but they're important to have. (edited)
7:42 PM
Spinning is something we've heard be useful before, it does tend to mess up/mix up the environment around you, but for whatever reason it seems to be helpful for grounding in the dream otherwise.
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And a lot of people say that remembering that you are asleep in your bed and dreaming helps ground them a lot.
7:43 PM
From there, practice whatever your decided plan is, and watch out for false awakenings - ALWAYS reality check (eg. pinch your nose and try to breathe through it) after waking from a lucid dream, never trust that you've actually woken up until one or two reality checks confirm it.
7:44 PM
And then for dream control, essentially whatever it takes to believe things will happen. Believing your tulpa is just around the corner, or for us, believing that we will be in our wonderland house and so finding our way there - usually by believing a nearby door leads to our wonderland before opening it. You can also do silly tricks like believing a shiny rock on the ground will allow you to fly while you hold it, or etc. etc.
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Ulithium_Dragon | Maledy | Freya 8/19/2023 8:24 PM
I used to practice dream control. I think I came to realize that the subconsious doesnt like to give up control. Dont try to FORCE the scene in the way you want. If you try to completely distrupt the dream by walking off the path it set out, you will get pushback. If you try to subtly manipulate the scene in small ways that dont disrupt the overall path, youll have much more success.
8:25 PM
So dont just derail and walk off into a nearby forest. Instead try to bring your tulpas with you on your dream adventure. Its is much easier to include them in the dream scenes than to try forcing your own scene with them (edited)
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Tewi: You can disrupt the "overall path", but usually just not with brute force (unless you're such an experienced lucid dreamer that you have that confidence) (edited)
8:28 PM
It's about tricking your expectations and really convincing yourself you believe X is/will be the case.
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Though really, spinning in place disrupts scenes pretty well in our experience, lol.
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And makes you feel your dream body more, at least for many people.
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But yeah, we have managed to believe that the door out of our room led to our wonderland before (though to be fair, our wonderland home has a door in the middle of the hallway specifically associated in waking life with being where we'd enter from a dream) (edited)
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yeah, you can rewrite the scene of what will happen next, you just can't change things instantaneously via mental effort. it was always easier for me to go somewhere/see someone i wanted to by thinking "okay this door will lead me to x"
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StarlieCharlie [@ ON] 8/20/2023 12:45 AM
I’m going to make my tulpa an egg so when they become sapient they can choose their own appearance but I feel like I should still name them, do you guys know any gender-neutral names?
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The blank slate method isn’t really a good option
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Rusty
The blank slate method isn’t really a good option
StarlieCharlie [@ ON] 8/20/2023 12:58 AM
Why?
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Tewi: Having unclear expectations can make it harder to focus on your tulpa as a sentient entity (edited)
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I don't know about an egg... But, other types of formlessness can work for eventually choosing their form on their own
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Though I would just give them a normal form that they can choose to or not to change later. (edited)
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StarlieCharlie [@ ON] 8/20/2023 12:59 AM
Would it work if I simply chose a video-game character or tv-show character?
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Tewi: Sure? (edited)
1:00 AM
Go with something you're comfortable with.
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Tulpas usually feel similarly about things you decided for them as you do, sharing your brain and all.
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StarlieCharlie [@ ON]
Would it work if I simply chose a video-game character or tv-show character?
that would work just fine; literally anything would work, even the egg (although i don't personally think that would help the tulpa create their own form). You don't even need to have a form at all
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blanka
that would work just fine; literally anything would work, even the egg (although i don't personally think that would help the tulpa create their own form). You don't even need to have a form at all
StarlieCharlie [@ ON] 8/20/2023 1:01 AM
Actually completely formless I think is best for now then
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blanka
that would work just fine; literally anything would work, even the egg (although i don't personally think that would help the tulpa create their own form). You don't even need to have a form at all
A long kiss goodnight 8/20/2023 1:03 AM
Usually what happens is after getting an orb or a ball the tulpa picks an anime chick form I don't think the egg form will hurt anything, but it won't stop the inevitable host pleasing (edited)
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Tewi: "Other kinds of formlessness" we often see are tulpas appearing as a wisp/spirit, a general shapeshifter, or whatever else feels "temporary and liable to change" (edited)
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"ball of light", I guess
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StarlieCharlie [@ ON] 8/20/2023 1:04 AM
I think for names, idk why these came in mind but Chime or Kiwi
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We really think just choosing your tulpa's form is fine though.
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StarlieCharlie [@ ON] 8/20/2023 1:05 AM
I keep getting different recommendations for their form and now I just don’t know
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A long kiss goodnight 8/20/2023 1:06 AM
There is no such thing as a universal standard for tulpamancy. It's normal to come across conflicting advice, go ahead and pick whatever makes most sense to you!
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StarlieCharlie [@ ON] 8/20/2023 1:07 AM
I think an egg is still best, I’m kind of doing what luz did I just realized that
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StarlieCharlie [@ ON]
I think for names, idk why these came in mind but Chime or Kiwi
StarlieCharlie [@ ON] 8/20/2023 1:07 AM
Can you guys help me on which of these two names you guys think is best?
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Tewi: Help is a strong word since this is totally subjective, but I like Kiwi. (edited)
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A form isn’t that big of a deal, but it should be something that can show emotion if visualization is important to you
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StarlieCharlie [@ ON]
Can you guys help me on which of these two names you guys think is best?
A long kiss goodnight 8/20/2023 1:08 AM
My brain immediately went to the shape name thing @.o.o.o.o.o.o. (edited)
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Uh did that work?
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@A long kiss goodnight
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@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
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A long kiss goodnight 8/20/2023 1:09 AM
Thank you
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Not sure why it didn't
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probs because cache shenanigans on mobile and an is offline
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A long kiss goodnight 8/20/2023 1:10 AM
Maybe
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Reisen
Tewi: Help is a strong word since this is totally subjective, but I like Kiwi. (edited)
StarlieCharlie [@ ON] 8/20/2023 1:10 AM
Yeah I’m thinking that too, for now it’s Kiwi!
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Jerry! ☆ | Shadow System BOT 8/20/2023 1:11 AM
You can always change your name later!
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Fuyuhiko | Space Scouts 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/20/2023 1:11 AM
True, Juniper changed his after a year
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Jerry! ☆ | Shadow System BOT 8/20/2023 1:12 AM
I changed my name like 3 times now?
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you can always just search up those sites that list names for inspiration
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Jerry! ☆ | Shadow System BOT 8/20/2023 1:12 AM
Okay one of those was me integrating but still
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StarlieCharlie [@ ON]
I keep getting different recommendations for their form and now I just don’t know
Tewi: (Because you can do whatever you want) (edited)
1:12 AM
All these things have been done before and worked out fine
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A long kiss goodnight
My brain immediately went to the shape name thing @.o.o.o.o.o.o. (edited)
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/20/2023 1:13 AM
hmm?
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Choosing their form off the bat is the most common though
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
hmm?
A long kiss goodnight 8/20/2023 1:13 AM
It was the momo and kiki thing?
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/20/2023 1:13 AM
The bouba/kiki effect or kiki/bouba effect is a non-arbitrary mental association between certain speech sounds and certain visual shapes. Most narrowly, it is the tendency for people, when presented with the nonsense words bouba and kiki , to associate bouba with a rounded shape and kiki with a spiky shape. Its discovery dates back to the 1920s...
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A long kiss goodnight 8/20/2023 1:13 AM
Yes
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Chime made me think of Bouba and Kiwi made me think of Kiki
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